Безумие заразительно

[chuka_lis]

Ну вот, США сбросили бомбы на атомные объекты Ирана.
Теперь "упредительные" удары "по врагам",  наносит не только Израиль, но и США,   и тут еще более прозрачно, что на самом деле проводится в жизнь ни что иное, как банальный закон джунглей- "кто сильный- тот и прав".
США наступили на  предложенные Израилем грабли в очередной раз.
Как показывает история, маятник качается "туда-сюда",  и ничего хорошего в ответ - быть не может.

President Donald Trump said Saturday the United States bombed three Iranian nuclear sites, bringing the U.S. directly into Israel’s war with Tehran.
“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan,”

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[vak]

Предыдущий раз в 1981 году Израиль аналогичным образом уничтожил ядерную программу Ирака. Вроде нормально вышло, с тех пор там тишина.

[chuka_lis]

есть существенные отличия.
тогда Ирак фактически был уже в войне с Ираном, ему было не до Израиля. И тогда США - не бомбили, не вмешивались (хотя и снабжали Израиль оружием).
более того, поддержка США Израиля в регионе и пр, послужили причиной переключения интересов АльКаиды на США, терактов против США в тч и теракта 11 сентября, и - последующих войн с участием США в Ираке и Афганистане. https://www.britannica.com/topic/al-Qaeda
al-Qaeda, broad-based militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden in the late 1980s and became one of the world’s most notorious terrorist organizations after carrying out the attacks of September 11, 2001.
Al-Qaeda merged with a number of other militant Islamist organizations, including Egypt’s Islamic Jihad and the Islamic Group, and on several occasions its leaders declared holy war against the United States. The organization established camps for Muslim militants from throughout the world, training tens of thousands in paramilitary skills, and its agents engaged in numerous terrorist attacks, including the destruction of the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania (1998), and a suicide bomb attack against the U.S. warship Cole in Aden, Yemen (2000; see USS Cole attack).
" Al-Qaeda's cited motivations included U.S. support of Israel, the presence of U.S. military bases in Saudi Arabia and sanctions against Iraq. "
и тд.

ну или вот
These motivations were published in bin Laden's November 2002 Letter to the American people,[4][5] in which he said that al-Qaeda's motives for the attacks included Western support for attacking Muslims in Somalia, supporting Russian atrocities against Muslims in Chechnya, supporting the Indian oppression against Muslims in Kashmir, condoning the 1982 massacres in Lebanon, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia,[5][6][7] US support of Israel,[8][9] and sanctions against Iraq.[10] Bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri asserted that Israeli repression of Palestinians during the Second Intifada was the immediate cause that forced Al-Qaeda to launch the September 11 attacks.[11][12][13]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motives_for_the_September_11_attacks
Израилю может и нормально, тк у окружающих его стран война иразруха, а для США (и всех других) - особо пользы я не вижу. А вред -вижу.

[chuka_lis]

Тишина, да? То есть, не верите Вы Нетаньяху, который в 2002 говорил, что Ирак обогащает уран, и использует оружие массового поражения (всякое), и доказывал, что вмешательство США необходимо, не нужны никакие согласия ООН, и США "стабилизирует" ситуацию в регионе.
это 2002 год, согласно Нетаньяху, Саддам имеет залежи оружия массового поражения, хим и био, и продолжает обогащать уран для создания ядерного оружия:
https://www.cnn.com/2002/US/09/12/netanyahu.cnna/
For example, in 1981 when Saddam was close to creating a nuclear bomb, he had a big central installation in a place called Osirik. He was creating a critical mass of plutonium. He was a very short time before amassing [enough] for an atom bomb. Israel took action. [Israel] didn't consult the U.N., it took action. It just wiped it out.
The U.N. summarily condemned Israel and many countries, all countries did, including our dearest friends, the United States. Well, in the hindsight of some two decades, people understand that the U.N. was wrong..
srael, I think in the United States and in other parts of the world, they understand, regardless of the position of their governments, regardless of the position of the U.N., we cannot allow a world in which Saddam acquires nuclear weapons.
I have complete faith that inspections will not uncover the myriad sites in which Saddam today can develop, can manufacture the critical mass of plutonium that he needs. He's changed his technology from a centralized plant of the kind that we took out in 1981 precisely because of that.
He now has this distributed in little sites, tiny sites, tiny centrifuges the size of washing machines, and they're hidden.
we cannot the 21st century to begin with a tyrant like Saddam Hussein, a war criminal who's gassed his own people, we cannot allow him to have atomic bombs.
ZAHN: A final question for you this morning. There was a report in one of your newspapers in Israel that said if there is military action and the Iraqis fire a Scud missile into Israel, there is a possibility that Israel would respond with nuclear weapons. What is the likelihood of that happening?
NETANYAHU: Well, I don't, I'm sure that wasn't an official statement. But...
ZAHN: It was in Ha'aretz [Israeli daily] newspaper.
NETANYAHU: Well, because it has its ways. But I think that there's no question that Israel would respond if attacked. I think we, I made that clear as prime minister and the policy has not changed.
..And the whole exercise of bringing down Saddam's regime is to prevent the introduction of these weapons by an unscrupulous, savage regime that would use them.
Israel, I think, would be very careful to, and would act prudently and responsibly. But it will respond to an attack, undoubtedly.

Как мы знаем, там была война, работали комиссии разных стран, ООН, МАГАТЭ и тд итп, не нашли никакого оружия ни хим ни био ни обогащенного урана или центрифуг, нчиего того чем стращал Нетаньяху Конгресс США и ООН, и что послужило одной из причин войны США в Ираке.

Тогда же, Израиль стимулировал США "разобраться с Ираном
"he told then-US defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld ahead of the 2003 Iraq invasion that “you will finish this very quickly. But your primary goal is the Iranian regime. And the Iranian regime is trying to develop a nuclear weapon, "

[zuka]

С добрым утром, вы из-под какого камня пишете, что в Ираке с 1981го года тишина?

[vak]

Я имею в виду, ядрёной бомбой там больше не занимаются.